~Hunter[GM] 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 Where are they? :o TW are not dropping them, ogres are not giving ogre rings.... there might be 5 special warrior damage rings in the entire server but hundreds of mage damage rings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wutafreek 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 Who cares? *cough cough* :unsure: Wars hurt enough already. :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gamny 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 yes we need more damage rings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gamny 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 ' date='Apr 19 2008, 05:12 PM' post='212311'] Where are they? :o TW are not dropping them, ogres are not giving ogre rings.... there might be 5 special warrior damage rings in the entire server but hundreds of mage damage rings. even ogre ring (dm+2) is a super rare o.o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyas 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 Agreed. I'll dig the total amount of warrior rings DROPPED by mobs soon. Just need to work little with logs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimora 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 let me guess... 1 ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumah 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 u wrong dimora. 2 so far lol. And yes Hunter... might be cool of war dmg rings drop increase a bit. Since HC drop rom set ogre ring from TW? Just an idea, dun flame me please :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimora 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 well it was just a guess lal. and maybe put a lil bit lower droprate to dragon ring & demonring? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumah 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 to be honest dragon and demon might be overpower for wars. All mages will complain. Ogre is decent compared with rom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wutafreek 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 to be honest dragon and demon might be overpower for wars. All mages will complain. Ogre is decent compared with rom Agreed completely, we dont need dragon and demon rings dropping a lot at all. :sleep: Having TW drop ogre rings a little less often than HC's drop RoW's might help the balance a little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumah 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 actually lots of mages have rom's so might be equal HC or even TW drop ogre rings ( eventually demon ring too but never dragon ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EzekieL 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 i think ettins should drop Abby rings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King!! 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 :mellow: :mellow: more things for warrior?... Ogre rings from ogre are supposed to be extremly rare... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exec 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 i think ettins should drop Abby rings i hope u joking o.0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyas 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 :mellow: :mellow: more things for warrior?... Ogre rings from ogre are supposed to be extremly rare... We also have had in this server so far 2x ROAM, 2x merienplate, 2x merien shields, 2x legal cancel, 3x xelimaweapons, 8 IE necks, 21x IP necklaces and total of 8x IE swords +350 ROMS and MASSIVE 1000 ROWS. And only 2 ogre, 1 demon power and 1 ring of the xelima dropped. Does it make any sense? For me it doesn't! PS. Why are you always defending mages and act like if we would be favoring some class? It's about general balance! The problem is currently also in ROGMs 0 of those here, that should be fixed also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~Hunter[GM] 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 Demon and Dragon rings..need to remain extremely rare...same as ROAM Xelima rings need to remain very very rare but ogre rings? they are not a rare drop....on USA and int'l they are as common almost as ROM is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyas 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 Demon and Dragon rings..need to remain extremely rare...same as ROAM Xelima rings need to remain very very rare but ogre rings? they are not a rare drop....on USA and int'l they are as common almost as ROM is. Agreed, but the problem is also that we don't have ROGMs at all. They should be dropped more often than ROAMS and therefore those drops should be fixed. My idea was just to give some scale for things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wutafreek 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 Demon and Dragon rings..need to remain extremely rare...same as ROAM Xelima rings need to remain very very rare but ogre rings? they are not a rare drop....on USA and int'l they are as common almost as ROM is. Agreed, but the problem is also that we don't have ROGMs at all. They should be dropped more often than ROAMS and therefore those drops should be fixed. My idea was just to give some scale for things. Very true about RoGM's, what even drops them? :huh: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King!! 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 :mellow: :mellow: more things for warrior?... Ogre rings from ogre are supposed to be extremly rare... We also have had in this server so far 2x ROAM, 2x merienplate, 2x merien shields, 2x legal cancel, 3x xelimaweapons, 8 IE necks, 21x IP necklaces and total of 8x IE swords +350 ROMS and MASSIVE 1000 ROWS. And only 2 ogre, 1 demon power and 1 ring of the xelima dropped. Does it make any sense? For me it doesn't! PS. Why are you always defending mages and act like if we would be favoring some class? It's about general balance! The problem is currently also in ROGMs 0 of those here, that should be fixed also. Oh skyas don't start a personal fight again plz. Not interested in your accusations, and there is no need for you to start a fight about this. Same things that drop roms/rows also drop emmy/ruby (wich are warrior rings duh) And I only said Ogre ring from OGRES are supposed to be rare, didn't say anything from tw. It would just suck that ogres start dropping mass ogre rings, just that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~elguason 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2008 I dont have problems to make Ogre rings more dropable... wouldnt hurt. Is hard to balance since for example you have emmy/ruby rings, but saphire ring doesnt work. Is not like for example, if there are a lot of Rows/roms must be a lot of Ogres, because the game design was never balanced... there are more rings, necks, stated armros, stated weapons, rares weapons and rares in general for wars than for mages. but i repeat, it is ok if there are more Ogre rings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Divine 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 Why not make this server have normal TW drops? On HBUSA, It's actually a rarity to have an ogre ring, because they drop from nothing other than a rare 2nd drop from an ogre. Demon Rings drop from TW's, Xelima rings drop from TW's at the same rate that Xelima weapons drop from TW's. Ice Sword is actually extremely overpowered here in my opinion, because it freezes for like 25+ seconds, haha. I feel as if Ogre Ring's drop rate should be dramatically increased by killing OGRES, but I also feel that tigerworms should drop Demon Rings as often as they would drop Ice Swords currently. I currently don't feel as if there is any reason for players to kill Tigerworms because, as far as i know, they don't even drop anything good. On the note of drop rates, I really REALLY feel as if we need somebody to release a real drop rate spreadsheet again, I never got to see the last one, and it was taken down. Can we PLEASE get a real drop rate chart? Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~elguason 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 Tw drops nice rares (a lot of them) And they are dropping diferent rings... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~Hunter[GM] 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 Why not make this server have normal TW drops? On HBUSA, It's actually a rarity to have an ogre ring, because they drop from nothing other than a rare 2nd drop from an ogre. Demon Rings drop from TW's, Xelima rings drop from TW's at the same rate that Xelima weapons drop from TW's. Ice Sword is actually extremely overpowered here in my opinion, because it freezes for like 25+ seconds, haha. I feel as if Ogre Ring's drop rate should be dramatically increased by killing OGRES, but I also feel that tigerworms should drop Demon Rings as often as they would drop Ice Swords currently. I currently don't feel as if there is any reason for players to kill Tigerworms because, as far as i know, they don't even drop anything good. On the note of drop rates, I really REALLY feel as if we need somebody to release a real drop rate spreadsheet again, I never got to see the last one, and it was taken down. Can we PLEASE get a real drop rate chart? Thanks! no We are not publishing that list ever again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimora 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 anyways the idea of ogner rings sounds pretty nice. since theres so many roms as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites