Lythium 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2008 Well i know that hunter said alreayd that bbh dmg was low.. but this bbh dmg is so low that you need bbh+3 dm+3/4 + rod for fly a dk war with zerk, i see mages fighting warriors like a joke, you dont even need shield as a mage because that bbh dmg is so low that they do on max 50 dmg with zerk :S... almsot all the times you cant even fly a mage only when you hit the hat. i made a bbh pl raider recently with no zerk wearing dm+3+bbh+3+ring of dragon , i tought it would own, well i found out that i give like 20+ dmg on kinght armros -.-'and some rare times i give like 30+ :S. My Point here is that bbhs dmg could be little better.. mages shield up and m.s wand to warrios with bbh and joke with them :S if you try to pvp a mage as a warrior the warrior always lose, and all mages know that its almsot impossibel to a warrior to kill them on pvp. I just think that warriors could do a bit more dmg with bbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Night-Mare 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2008 If it were higher. Remove the weapon from the shop and leave it to manu only with 100% skill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumah 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2008 read again about bbh lythium :s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neekeri 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2008 ive fought u lythim in pl if u are montoya and u could fly me with swings whiout zerks, if u vere a bit better u could kill any1 with thos items. but truth is bbh dmg at agaisnt dk items is joke, but fine at pl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lythium 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2008 Well maybe the dmg of bbh on pl its not even bad, because all peopel got low hp and kinght armors, and i think is better to see the dmg that bbh makes on game then read about bbh, because as a 180 the bbh dmg is a joke and all bbher users will afirm it. ps:Sry for my english Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumah 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2008 is not about BBH is about DK defense and endurance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lythium 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2008 Ha ok. i tought that bbh were low dmg, but maybe dk is to much defence, maybe ur righte. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumah 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2008 is just my personal opinion but DK armors r overpowered as hell doesnt mean im right at all but mages can stand any war 1vs1 180's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lythium 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2008 yes :S , if a war fight a decent mage is impossibel to kill kill the mage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumah 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2008 but since you play in pl shouldnt complain even with dm3 bbh+3 and dragon ring :/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lythium 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2008 I got a max war to, the pl raider was just for fun, and believe me its not that great on pl :| Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whiteangel 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2008 dk+15 sword rlz ;), bbh to clickers :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sardientje 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2008 dk 15 iz nerdz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MeRcY-Rast 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2008 bbh damage alot low... lmao i hit -35 - 13 with hero set and dm itens... max hit with zerk = 95 dash 110 with ITENS !! =\ look at KOrean Guild, all use DK sword. so guei Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gRim 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2008 IMO bbh dmg should NOT be rised, that would make spec weapons(spec bhs etc ) USELESS, wich would lead into that all wars being 200 str (wich is sadly very common already) werent the DK amors Endu raised when BBH strip was high? and now when its strip has been lowered, shouldnt it be lowered? o and if anything <should be done its that PA on ALL DK amors PA reduced slightly! :ph34r: look at KOrean Guild, all use DK sword. so guei hehe many of the korean wars seem to have 200 str, u seen them using DK temp mainly cuz they use DK temp on wars(cuz its good HitProb) and BBH on mageos(due high crit/strip), so they have both (tough it could be just cuz bbh better dmg/for trainin than like -10 DKtemp so at +15 they might change to 130 str) O.o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adik666 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2008 BBh dmg is good-->look at pl map-141 lvl( blizard vs BBH = good balance ){knight armor/manu armor} mage 140 lvl blizard dmg 70 to 280+ war 140 lvl BBH dmg 40 to 100+ LVL 180(mage vs BBH war)= no balance{DK armors} mage 180 lvl blizard dmg 80 to 300+ war 180 lvl BBH dmg 20 to 50+ hahahah is pathetic NO BALANCE DK ARMORS is a joke (PA/ENDU/DEF) form NASA!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Synz 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2008 We need special BBH drops, like Ancient BBH+2 or something. From Stome Golens I think.......................................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sardientje 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2008 We need special BBH drops, like Ancient BBH+2 or something. From Stome Golens I think.......................................... sounds liek hb rebirth idea u gm there? :ph34r: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~WhiteFang 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2008 the BBH dmg will probably not increased. It has nice damage I think. Perhaps you should PvP less and hunt more to gather some stones to make yourself a BBH+x :D a bs BBH is made to nicly train mostly... the bs items are a basic to start off with, you need to hunt to gather diff items or statted items or stones to make your bs items better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaggyBoyX 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2008 bbh damage is ok...i mostly like to see all the sexi Fmages strip :D but anyway...maybe dk is too much pa...but i dont have a problem with it mostly because you just need to get a higher+ on your weapon...go train and hunt. It is rewarding to get so many xstone and plus your stuff...i had dbow+2, bbh+3...special weapons +... is beri nais Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~WhiteFang 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2008 DK items have NO PA. DK has very high DF (Defense), so the CHANCE to hit is LESS, but IF you hit, you hit normal damage as it has 0% PA. If someone has a PA set, your chance to hit is higher as the DF (Defense) of the set is lower (hoses have less df then DK legs etc etc) so the CHANCE to hit is higher, but IF you hit, some of your damage will b absorbed after some calculations, if back luck it absorbs ALL and you'll hit a minimum of 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adik666 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 DK items have NO PA. DK has very high DF (Defense), so the CHANCE to hit is LESS, but IF you hit, you hit normal damage as it has 0% PA. If someone has a PA set, your chance to hit is higher as the DF (Defense) of the set is lower (hoses have less df then DK legs etc etc) so the CHANCE to hit is higher, but IF you hit, some of your damage will b absorbed after some calculations, if back luck it absorbs ALL and you'll hit a minimum of 1. "DK (armors) items have NO PA? is joke? ALL armors have PA BS armors have normal PA---> It is not summed Manu armors have normal PA+ manu% bonus--->It is not summed DK armors have PA (too high)>>>NASA project ::P--->It is not summed Special armors (PA stat. items) have PA(Which are summed ) If we will set up -if you hit(weapons)- 100 dmg -If you have no armor on --->You will obtain injuries 100 dmg(Not important where it will hit{Head/ hand/ legs/ body -If DK armors set have PA If DK plate have 50%PA---->You will obtain injuries DMG 50 If DK helm have 40%PA---> You will obtain injuries DMG 60 If DK legs have 40%PA---->You will obtain injuries DMG 60 If DK hub 30 PA --->You will obtain injuries DMG 70 IF you have special set(stat.PA set) hornet PA 21 plate PA 12 hub PA 30 legs PA 15 Not important where it will hit{Head/ hand/legs/ body--> You will obtain injuries dmg 22 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hantam 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 correct, think before talking about facts whitefang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MeRcY-Rast 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 DK items have NO PA. DK has very high DF (Defense), so the CHANCE to hit is LESS, but IF you hit, you hit normal damage as it has 0% PA. If someone has a PA set, your chance to hit is higher as the DF (Defense) of the set is lower (hoses have less df then DK legs etc etc) so the CHANCE to hit is higher, but IF you hit, some of your damage will b absorbed after some calculations, if back luck it absorbs ALL and you'll hit a minimum of 1. lmao !!!! No pa? LoL!! :lol: :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timma 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 if you guys remember awhile back they lowered the pa of all dk armors. dk BBH war vs. dk Temp. = ek for bbh war. i have a war with a dk 12 sword an in pvp vs. a BBH war i do good until my plate breaks once thats done weill i usaully chub alot pots and zem -1 if you cant kill a mage with a BBH war maybe rething how you pvp. i can down a mage easly on my dk war or my friends BBH war, this a little bit more to killing someone other than unleash all your crits at once. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites