Mystery Of Upgrading?

[volvo2 0]

http://www.hbportal.net/articles/60

 

I want to ask if manu here gives anything besides endu? coz I allready lost 10 xelimas on makeing manu weapon from 0 to +1, and its not funny anymore...

 

"Note: The higher % of completion on a manufactured item, the more likely you will be able to sucessfully upgrade it." ---> is it true or just bullshit?

[nlic 0]

http://www.hbportal.net/articles/60

 

I want to ask if manu here gives anything besides endu? coz I allready lost 10 xelimas on makeing manu weapon from 0 to +1, and its not funny anymore...

 

"Note: The higher % of completion on a manufactured item, the more likely you will be able to sucessfully upgrade it." ---> is it true or just bullshit?

never heard of high completion = high successful upgrade :D just luck @.@

[Raquzz 0]

I think its true, what more it has completion, that easier it is to upgrade.

[Kefka 0]

the only thing manu does is let u upgrade to +10 instead of +7 its all random unless theres a bug somewhere which gives 100% chance to upgrade which ive seen on several servers

and no weapons wouldnt get more endurance from upgrade only armor

[Divine 0]

Private servers can have higher and lower chances of successfully upgrading. There is no set rate on all servers, but the rate can be changed by the coders/owner of the server to their liking.

 

I have yet to upgrade successfully on this server too, but I've only used 4 xelima stones.

 

What I've heard over the years is that manu items have a higher success rate. Higher % = Higher chance to succeed. I don't have any facts to back up my claim, but this is just my experience.

[Kefka 0]

like i said random cuz u guys cant upgrade and i used the first 2 xstones i had and made manu gis+2

 

[Inner 0]

the only diference is that manu items can be upgraded a lil further

or at least thats what i heard :blush:

 

maybe Jaapy can enlight us.-

[~elguason 0]

Is true as far as i know.

[Guest mamadas]

yes thats correct

[~farjat 0]

i would like to know also!

[Kud. 0]

jappy tell us im sure you know it xD

[~Jaapy 0]

Sure. I'll take a look when I'm at home. My workday just started so that will be not be too soon unfortunately!

[whiteangel 0]

I fail 5 consecutives times (5xelimas) to bbh1 :(

 

sry for my bad english

[~Jaapy 0]

Okay here goes.

 

Obviously, as most already knew... you can upgrade a normal item to +7 and a manufactured item to +10 max.

 

The Helbreath Nemesis chances to upgrade items are:

 

to +1: 30% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 10)

to +2: 25% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 10)

to +3: 20% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 20)

to +4: 15% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 20)

to +5: 10% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 20)

to +6: 10% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 20)

to +7: 8% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 20)

to +8: 8% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 20)

to +9: 5% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 40)

to +10: 3% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 40)

 

So the same list for a manu item with completion 160%:

 

to +1: 30 + (160 / 10) = 46%

to +2: 25 + (160 / 10) = 41%

to +3: 20 + (160 / 20) = 28%

to +4: 15 + (160 / 20) = 23%

to +5: 10 + (160 / 20) = 18%

to +6: 10 + (160 / 20) = 18%

to +7: 8 + (160 / 20) = 16%

to +8: 8 + (160 / 20) = 16%

to +9: 5 + (160 / 40) = 9%

to +10: 3 + (160 / 40) = 7%

 

And yes, the ORIGINAL success rates are much higher for low level upgraded items and much lower for higher level upgraded items. I don't know why. Original base rates:

 

to +1: 90%

to +2: 80%

to +3: 48%

to +4: 24%

to +5: 9.6%

to +6: 2.8%

to +7: 0.57%

to +8: 0.05%

to +9: 0.004%

to +10: 0.00016%

[~farjat 0]

That is very clear now.

 

Also official servers have safe upgrade to +3 in SOME items...

We dont yet, but i would like to hear sdome comments about how it should be before take a desition.

 

[Kefka 0]

you should have it goto +3 without losing the item would be a lovely thing to have

[~farjat 0]

apart from loving it.

It was only for some kind of items and i need details :P

It was like states one only to +1 is safe right? i really dont remember..

[volvo2 0]

yes only to +1 is safe, maybe give so more % to the manu items it would encourage makeing manu skill?

[~elguason 0]

At usa i think to +3 is safe (you dont lose thge weapon) not sure.

 

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As far as i know:

 

Manu weapons can go to +10, Bs weapons to +7

Completion on manu weapons doesnt give more Hitting Probability or More damage.

Manu weapons has a sucess higher than a standar Bs weapon on the upgrade.

Manu armors doesnt give more Def or Pa.

[volvo2 0]

on all server I have played weapon could wanish when upgradeing from +1 to +2, the same is with armors of all kinds. It would be nice if manu had more than +20 % max of upgrading weapon. do u know how hard it is to make 200 % weapon? :P), first u need to get 100 % manu skil... and noone has it on this server besides tyrone :P). Maybe lewave manu % as it is for lower than 200 %, and give some additional % if weapon is 200 %, like 190 % wep = +19 % chance to upgade / 200 % wep = +30/40 % to upgade... come on ppl can u at least make manu a little worthy?