volvo2 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2008 http://www.hbportal.net/articles/60 I want to ask if manu here gives anything besides endu? coz I allready lost 10 xelimas on makeing manu weapon from 0 to +1, and its not funny anymore... "Note: The higher % of completion on a manufactured item, the more likely you will be able to sucessfully upgrade it." ---> is it true or just bullshit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nlic 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2008 http://www.hbportal.net/articles/60 I want to ask if manu here gives anything besides endu? coz I allready lost 10 xelimas on makeing manu weapon from 0 to +1, and its not funny anymore... "Note: The higher % of completion on a manufactured item, the more likely you will be able to sucessfully upgrade it." ---> is it true or just bullshit? never heard of high completion = high successful upgrade :D just luck @.@ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raquzz 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2008 I think its true, what more it has completion, that easier it is to upgrade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kefka 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2008 the only thing manu does is let u upgrade to +10 instead of +7 its all random unless theres a bug somewhere which gives 100% chance to upgrade which ive seen on several servers and no weapons wouldnt get more endurance from upgrade only armor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Divine 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2008 Private servers can have higher and lower chances of successfully upgrading. There is no set rate on all servers, but the rate can be changed by the coders/owner of the server to their liking. I have yet to upgrade successfully on this server too, but I've only used 4 xelima stones. What I've heard over the years is that manu items have a higher success rate. Higher % = Higher chance to succeed. I don't have any facts to back up my claim, but this is just my experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kefka 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2008 like i said random cuz u guys cant upgrade and i used the first 2 xstones i had and made manu gis+2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inner 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2008 the only diference is that manu items can be upgraded a lil further or at least thats what i heard :blush: maybe Jaapy can enlight us.- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~elguason 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2008 Is true as far as i know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mamadas Report post Posted March 26, 2008 yes thats correct Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~farjat 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2008 i would like to know also! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kud. 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2008 jappy tell us im sure you know it xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~Jaapy 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2008 Sure. I'll take a look when I'm at home. My workday just started so that will be not be too soon unfortunately! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whiteangel 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2008 I fail 5 consecutives times (5xelimas) to bbh1 :( sry for my bad english Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~Jaapy 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2008 Okay here goes. Obviously, as most already knew... you can upgrade a normal item to +7 and a manufactured item to +10 max. The Helbreath Nemesis chances to upgrade items are: to +1: 30% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 10) to +2: 25% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 10) to +3: 20% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 20) to +4: 15% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 20) to +5: 10% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 20) to +6: 10% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 20) to +7: 8% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 20) to +8: 8% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 20) to +9: 5% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 40) to +10: 3% success rate (for manu items: +X%, where X is Completion / 40) So the same list for a manu item with completion 160%: to +1: 30 + (160 / 10) = 46% to +2: 25 + (160 / 10) = 41% to +3: 20 + (160 / 20) = 28% to +4: 15 + (160 / 20) = 23% to +5: 10 + (160 / 20) = 18% to +6: 10 + (160 / 20) = 18% to +7: 8 + (160 / 20) = 16% to +8: 8 + (160 / 20) = 16% to +9: 5 + (160 / 40) = 9% to +10: 3 + (160 / 40) = 7% And yes, the ORIGINAL success rates are much higher for low level upgraded items and much lower for higher level upgraded items. I don't know why. Original base rates: to +1: 90% to +2: 80% to +3: 48% to +4: 24% to +5: 9.6% to +6: 2.8% to +7: 0.57% to +8: 0.05% to +9: 0.004% to +10: 0.00016% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~farjat 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2008 That is very clear now. Also official servers have safe upgrade to +3 in SOME items... We dont yet, but i would like to hear sdome comments about how it should be before take a desition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kefka 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2008 you should have it goto +3 without losing the item would be a lovely thing to have Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~farjat 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2008 apart from loving it. It was only for some kind of items and i need details :P It was like states one only to +1 is safe right? i really dont remember.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
volvo2 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2008 yes only to +1 is safe, maybe give so more % to the manu items it would encourage makeing manu skill? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~elguason 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 At usa i think to +3 is safe (you dont lose thge weapon) not sure. -- As far as i know: Manu weapons can go to +10, Bs weapons to +7 Completion on manu weapons doesnt give more Hitting Probability or More damage. Manu weapons has a sucess higher than a standar Bs weapon on the upgrade. Manu armors doesnt give more Def or Pa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
volvo2 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 on all server I have played weapon could wanish when upgradeing from +1 to +2, the same is with armors of all kinds. It would be nice if manu had more than +20 % max of upgrading weapon. do u know how hard it is to make 200 % weapon? :P), first u need to get 100 % manu skil... and noone has it on this server besides tyrone :P). Maybe lewave manu % as it is for lower than 200 %, and give some additional % if weapon is 200 %, like 190 % wep = +19 % chance to upgade / 200 % wep = +30/40 % to upgade... come on ppl can u at least make manu a little worthy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites