Ancient Flameberge Vs. Flamberge +3

[as87 0]

Ancient is +2, flame +3 is well...+3.

 

Though I'm arguing with a friend that Flame +3 is better but he thinks that Flame +3 just adds after the dice rolls, while Ancient adds the +2 to the dice and hence should be higher, that doesn't make sense to me...

[Horror 0]

Flam is 2D12(?)

Anc 2D14

Flam +3 = 2D12+3

 

So Anc comes out on top, the difference is even more pronounced when zerked.

[as87 0]

So for Flame +3, is the +3 just added after the dice is rolled or something, whereas with Anc the +2 makes the flame 2D14?

 

So would this be correct:

 

Base - Max Damage

Flame +3 = 2D12+3= 24+3 = 27

Anc Flame = 2D14 = 28

 

[IRONCLAD 0]

No contest really; flam+3 adds just +3 damage to a flam's normal damage, ancient adds an extra 2 dice to a flams normal damage dice, so a greater probability of dealing high damage to opponents.

 

And then there's stats, ancient flam can be stated (rep+1,+2, +3 or hp21, hp28 etc). Get the picture? ;)

[TheGambler 0]

flam+3 would have a higher minimum though, right? and i think you can upgrade it... same can't be said for ancient flam

 

plus flam+3 is a LOT easier to come by

[BaggyBoyX 0]

hehe flam+3(llf)+5

 

MWAHAHAHA!

 

(or ancient rep7)

[Vampyr 0]

Ancient wins. The 2 extra dice is better than the +3 dmg.

[DEz 0]

dice dmg is increased by str, lvl, zerk, crit.

+3 is just added.

no more words

[~WhiteFang 0]

indeed, ancients wins

 

ancient = +2 dmg

ancient +2 = +4 dmg

 

flame +3 = +3 dmg

 

ancient wins with 1 point more, not much, but can make the difference in a fight.