LOberta 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2009 Well, thats no secret that mages hero set is crap, if give u a nice effect when u cast and like +5 dmg and its pretty much not worth getting as a mage other then for fun whereas warriors hero set is almost the best set for a warrior to pvp and pvm with, it adds hitting prob + dmg. i am well aware that mages are better and easier to ek with then warriors so my suggestion is the following: -mages hero set dmg stays the same cause mages do enough dmg as it is. -the hero set is crap mostly because of the robe witch is shitty defence so i suggest making a hero chain mail to replace the robe. -as we all know mages are crap without mp recovery so i suggest giving each hero item (cept cap) mp14 recovery and making it work only when u wear the complete set, so that people will still buy mp14 hoses/berks and so on. -last time i got a hero set on a mage and a warrior, i payd 700ek's with war and 600ek's with mage (if i'm not mistaken) so i think hero set should stay with 700ek's to buy whereas mages hero set if upgraded like i offer should coust 800-850 ek's because mages are alot easier to ek with considering sades and helds. would love to get some reply on this thought of mine. thanks ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eldon 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2009 Uhh, I'm not sure I support each piece having MP14 on it - it's quite easy to get ek's on mages, and the hero set is not meant to be a mini-mp set but I could possibly support some MP on it. However, I definitely think mages need a hero chain. Chain is the main piece of equipment any mage wears, and using a hero chain would be less defence than DK chain anyway (as hero plate is less defence than DK plate). I'm surprised stech didn't incorporate a hero chain into the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBader 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2009 I don't care what happens to hero gear just please for the love of god change the penis cap it is horrible and it looks like I have a blue &%$# coming out my neck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trulala 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2009 hero chain & hat ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruutu / Risti 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2009 Yea, mages need more defence and better items rite? For god sakes, originally mages were ment to be supportive characters, there shouldnt even be any damn mage hero set if u ask me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eldon 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2009 Yea, mages need more defence and better items rite? For god sakes, originally mages were ment to be supportive characters, there shouldnt even be any damn mage hero set if u ask me. Hero chain is still a decrease of defense (from DK chain) - the cap is fine as is, but mages should not be wearing robes. MP set = more regen, less defense - but you can still get MP chain if you are lucky Hero = low defense, less defense, more damage - but you can't get a chain DK set = more defense, less damage, less regen A hero chain is not going to unbalance mages substantially more than they are already, most mages already do not wear full-hero (even if they have it) so if anything it might mean they are wearing armor with less defense more often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~Jaapy 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2009 its pretty much not worth getting as a mage other then for fun whereas warriors hero set is almost the best set for a warrior to pvp and pvm with, it adds hitting prob + dmg. The mage set also gets a magical hit ratio bonus, just like the warrior set gets it for physical damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red72701 0 Report post Posted January 28, 2009 Change PA and defense to same as regular chain mail. Hero Robe 23 def Chain Mail 30 def. No need to change hero cap it already has same defense as knight full helm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magazo 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2009 mage hero set = +25 hitting, which makes a difference if fighting mage vs mage... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gamny 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2009 Yea, mages need more defence and better items rite? For god sakes, originally mages were ment to be supportive characters, there shouldnt even be any damn mage hero set if u ask me. Hero chain is still a decrease of defense (from DK chain) - the cap is fine as is, but mages should not be wearing robes. MP set = more regen, less defense - but you can still get MP chain if you are lucky Hero = low defense, less defense, more damage - but you can't get a chain DK set = more defense, less damage, less regen A hero chain is not going to unbalance mages substantially more than they are already, most mages already do not wear full-hero (even if they have it) so if anything it might mean they are wearing armor with less defense more often. dont suggest useless updates /changes, when we got more important issues =.= mage hero set = +25 hitting, which makes a difference if fighting mage vs mage... NO, it ALWAYS makes a difference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RawrinDrago 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2009 i think the Robe and Cap Looks WAY OFF Uglah!!!!!! i think this game isnt bout power but also for stylish looks (The Warrior's Hero Set >>> is Very Pimp and i give it 5 stars) But for the Mage i think they could change the robe( Maybe robe.... but defenitly Cap!!!) It should be the Wizard Hat <<<< Most Loved by Mi :wub: And i believe the def isnt a matter since most pure mages come stacked on vit... and they can alwayz get def items to add in when they Parad and etc. I would love to see a style change in the Mage Full hero's cap to the wizard hat :D -Drago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eldon 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2009 dont suggest useless updates /changes, when we got more important issues =.= Gamny, suggestions can be made at any time. As this is a forum they get stored, till they can be put into the game. It's the GM's decision to decide if and when they go in, and the date they are posted on the forum does not matter. Don't tell me/people not to make suggestions, you think the GM's have so little self-control they just put every idea they see into the game without fixing the important things first? Your comment was stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whiteangel 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2009 hmmm and wars can upgrade the hero armors to 10 k endu in plate :P. or hero blade plox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEz 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2009 Mages are godlike enough... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gamny 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2009 dont suggest useless updates /changes, when we got more important issues =.= Gamny, suggestions can be made at any time. As this is a forum they get stored, till they can be put into the game. It's the GM's decision to decide if and when they go in, and the date they are posted on the forum does not matter. Don't tell me/people not to make suggestions, you think the GM's have so little self-control they just put every idea they see into the game without fixing the important things first? Your comment was stupid. I said useless updates like the one your proposing stop that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eldon 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2009 dont suggest useless updates /changes, when we got more important issues =.= Gamny, suggestions can be made at any time. As this is a forum they get stored, till they can be put into the game. It's the GM's decision to decide if and when they go in, and the date they are posted on the forum does not matter. Don't tell me/people not to make suggestions, you think the GM's have so little self-control they just put every idea they see into the game without fixing the important things first? Your comment was stupid. I said useless updates like the one your proposing stop that It's not my proposition, it's one I support. I've put my reasoning for supporting it. You have not listed any reasoning behind your answer, so you've contributed 0% to this thread. Justify your opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~Hunter[GM] 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2009 no please mages are powerful enough and hero mages more so with the damage bonus same as warriors get and youre wrong....when faced with a lot of monsters, most warriors will put dk set on same if theyre fighting a lot of other warriors...hero comes off after crits are used, DK on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gamny 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 dont suggest useless updates /changes, when we got more important issues =.= Gamny, suggestions can be made at any time. As this is a forum they get stored, till they can be put into the game. It's the GM's decision to decide if and when they go in, and the date they are posted on the forum does not matter. Don't tell me/people not to make suggestions, you think the GM's have so little self-control they just put every idea they see into the game without fixing the important things first? Your comment was stupid. I said useless updates like the one your proposing stop that It's not my proposition, it's one I support. I've put my reasoning for supporting it. You have not listed any reasoning behind your answer, so you've contributed 0% to this thread. Justify your opinion. trying to unbalance things is not a justification.. i wont be done even if some noobs like you like it so ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eldon 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 I think bringing insults into it is against forum rules buddy. That being said, getting insulted by a guy who logs, spies, and admits to using the tab macro (which really shows your skill) - doesn't really hurt much. Get what I'm saying? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gamny 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 I think bringing insults into it is against forum rules buddy. That being said, getting insulted by a guy who logs, spies, and admits to using the tab macro (which really shows your skill) - doesn't really hurt much. Get what I'm saying? im not insulting anyone just wanted you to stop posting noob/useless ideas thx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eldon 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Again, it's not my idea - I put my reasoning behind my decision - you did not. You're a waste of space Gamny, all talk, you log and use exploits - just another macroer. The kind of kid that hacks in CS because they can. Respect -10 in my books, so who's the newb - exploiter. P.S. I respect Hunter's point of view because he put reasoning behind it - just coming in here to flame is not cool MaynarD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oni 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2009 a server without a response is no server of mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOberta 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 well after reading all u'r answers, i think the offer to put +14 mp on each hero items is maybe overpowering but still i stand firm on my suggestion to make a hero chain mail for mages, if not then you can delete the mage's hero set completely because besides from the nice graphics it makes when u cast its kinda useless. about mages being overpowered - ive played in this server long enough as a warrior and as a mage to know that its all about the items. a mage with great items will defeat every warrior (even edited chars like boy if he's a skill player and has realy good items). but the thing i most enjoy about this game and the thing i'm sure the creators planned it would be was massive fights, 1 on 1 is boring and from my exprience usually ends when one side runs to safe/pull/recall/or just runs, so if mages are "godlike" as u say in player vs. player it doesnt realy matter cause those fights as i just said are kinda useless as they are, and in massive fights, as a mage it could be nice to have a hero chain that would improve u'r defance just the tiniest bit. think about it ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oni 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 a server without a response is no server of mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CutePanda 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 just use dk chain if u want defence. switching sets takes only few sec. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
