khelben 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 I am now expenmenting with endurnace and defence, those who can do manu or have manu items can you post the completion and what the endurance is (the type of item would be nice too) this info would help me chart the defence ratios of the items I already know about the disparity on the robes and the clothes which throw all the other charted numbers off. Item completion endurnace is what I need I can use that to chart the defence. 3500 100% =+40 knight plate 3000 100% =+37 plate 1000 100% =+30 chain 600 100% =+20 scale 400 100% =+10 leather 300 100% =+3 tunic 400 100% =+1 BODICE (*disparity) 400 100% =+1 LONG BODICE (*disparity) 3000 100% =+12 wizard robe (*disparity should be comparable to plate may be material diffrence) 3000 100% =+10 robe (*matches plate on endurance but it is alot lower on defence) will post more as I get legs shoes unders and helms unless someone wants to be nice. when I get this all figured out I will chart it for those who want to plug and play thier armors into it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garch 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 Is there a clear answer if manu completion and endurance affect defence yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
khelben 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 that is what I am working on right now, I figure if I can chart the changes and such then start playing with m stones which appear to raise only endurance then I will know alot better if it has an effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garch 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 How are you going to know the actual defence ratios of the manu items? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kefka 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 200% is double endurance ez formula from there ur endurance problem solved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giggles 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 I totaly suck at math, but if I was decent at it I would help O_o all I know is bigger number = beter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~elguason 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 Is there a clear answer if manu completion and endurance affect defence yet? Manu armor doesnt give you more defense. Manu Weapons doesnt give you more damage. Only give you more Endurance and a better probability to succes an upgrade with a stone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whiteangel 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 manu armors sux. knight armors rlz.. las manu armors que eh visto son plate mail ( la knight tiene mas def) vi a BahCo y aparentemente tiene la misma dex que yo ?ro el usa armors manu y los hits le re cabian = es mas los crit pegaban mas alto de lo normal.... Manu armors Sux... solo para lvls 80- :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kefka 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 whiteangel u just made urself sound so foolish right there u know u can manu knight stuff also noodle so u stick to the goldie ill stick to the knight manu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garch 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 Also : Upgrading armors with merien stones...just endurance or defence as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giggles 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2007 Also : Upgrading armors with merien stones...just endurance or defence as well? Just endurance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EzekieL 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2007 i dont think manu has better defense then BS items manu only effects endurance and color.. im not sure about merien stones tho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~elguason 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2007 Merien stone give you more Endurance too, not Def. Hunter can create a Knight set +15, and then we test. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites