Zucchini

Well, the sad fact is that you'll have to learn it the hard way, again. You guys kept the server going untill you had 20 players online tops last time, and it'll have to come to that again it seems. The updates your doing sound great, and the ones you've done so far are good too (with some expections ofcourse), but there are some serious problems that made the server lose 200 players and that should be very alarming to the staff. There's still hope i think, and i hope it doesn't need to come down to 20 players online before you open your eyes to suggestions. As ulez said, you should respect the remaining players you have, like we respect the staff. (Ofcourse these suggestions might seem like they're ment to be insults but really we all are here to make the server better)

This. You have to see that there are some problems when your server loses over 200 players in few months. Sure there's always the few people at the beginning who dont get the start they would like or get destroyed by maxed players, but still 200+ players should tell you something else. I cant believe the amount of rares there's on the server already, this fact will keep any new players from joining the server. I hate to say this but soon you'll be back at 40 players online tops, and those are the ones with good luck (read: good sets and/or rares)

This kind of conversation has always been forbidden here, so be very careful what you say. Any suggestion that is too close to the truth will result a ban. I already told several people that the damage has already been done. And im saying this the nicest way possible.

No. Ok! Maybe after the 10th sb then..

Server restart now oqe?

He is around. He will be available to make the fast fix. But we just have no clue yet on exactly what to do.. Alright, good to hear. Thanks.

Any idea when White will arrive and help us out?

Well i certainly dont wanna argue with you mj, as i said above GM's tend to be a bit hostile when people talk about the forbidden topic :rolleyes: My opinion still differs from yours a bit about losing/gaining players part, i do agree some players that have used money to get items would be furious. Yet i've had the feeling from the day i started playing this server, that there are lots of players just waiting for reset, since nemesis is by far the most succesfull server in HB, but its just way too loaded item-wise IMO. I wont deny that i've sold all the items me and my friends shared on this server and i did quit, but the reason was the one and only for me, people just have way too much items. About loyal players... well, i would count my self as one, of course i aint the best one since i quit, but i check the site weekly and always hoping for the topic "server reset :date:" (you cant possibly say its never going to happen!!). I am also pretty sure that you could agree that some of the players that have been around nemesis for ages are now at the market place selling their accounts and items aswell, so there's gotta be something wrong. Or maybe they've got them self occupied like me with my 8 month old daughter. But enough of rambling, like Tzunal said, you might wanna make a vote and just see how it goes, doesn't mean you actually have to wipe the server altho the poll would say so. Thanks for reading and sorry! :D

Sorry for bringing an old post up, but just read this myself, and i would just like to point out (i know all the GM's heard this million times but it never gets old imo!), BUT wiping could and very much would bring alot of new players and old ones aswell. I know GM's are hostile against people posting this same story over and over, so i wont go on about it anymore than this, thanks! See you guys when/if the server restarts. - Sodomotor

I myself have to disagree with this, its true that some players might find it "a sign of a dying server" when they see people selling accounts. In my best opinion, selling your account without scamming anyone/getting scammed is perfectly good way to get out of a server/the whole game and making some money while doing it. I think the new comers if there still are some, will judge the servers activity by the fact that your announcing past and upcoming events, adding pictures of people taking part of them, and ofcourse some raiding pictures will make people wanna check the server out!

Good that someone remembers! im a dad of a month old baby girl.

Well to be absolutely honest with you, Hwrang's status in the server at the moment is that they're considered more or less saints. They've got GM's on their side by pictures of people making fun of what they are, leaving out the stuff they say. Insulting is all they've done as long as i can remember, but im way too tired after a days work to start taking screenshots of them saying every1 is a noob and even "calling" me an american, altho im from finland :o

Thanks hunter for the fun event, i was about to go to bed before it but it was worth it to stay! Looking forward to the next one.

I thought the way of the rules are clear to you by now, they are as the GM's say it is. As you said, not even your problem.

Do not play with the rules, the result aint very pretty. As i already said in the other topic considering this matter, guys, dont push the GM's with your thoughts of owning the server.

It was aresden aswell, that started shooting blizzard at elvine players, so ofcourse some will think that the game is on, and attack the target, so the blame was on both sides. This ofcourse does not matter to aresden, since they already lost their chances on getting the prize. Anyways hunter, i myself had fun untill it was aresden's turn to defend.

that really does sound fishy! btw lol at kk aiming us huaehuahuae kk as in keystone kratocracy? im no longer part of that guild, thanks for the info tho.

that really does sound fishy!

I agree with Sardientje, it seems kinda cheap way to get reps, and i think most of the players will see thru this, and figure that your all about your own good. Ofcourse, it'll be easy way to get items so someone will go for it.

Everyone's getting a translation, so what the *censored*, here goes. Finnish: GM ryhm? alkaa ottamaan sua kiinni.. hyvyydest?! Jokaisella GM:ll? on joku palkinto annettavana, jos n?kev?t sun tekev?n jotain hy?dyllist? serverille, olemalla mukava uusille pelureille, auttamassa pyyt?m?tt?, tai tekem?ss? jotain hyv?? peliss?. GM:? antaa sulle palkinnon ja selitt??, miksi saat sen. Ent? jos kysyt GM:lt? palkintoa? Tai kerrot GM:lle mit? hyv?? teit? Sillon et saa palkintoa. Et voi tulla n?ytt?m??n sit? meille, me huomaamme sen itse. Me haluamme n?ytt?? teille, ett? me huomaamme, kun teette hyvi? asioita, ja haluumme palkita sen. Hyv?t tyypit eiv?t tule viimeisen? t?ll? kertaa!!

Um actually i wasn't talking to ey at all. I was talking to PinkLady. I said in Red chat MUNG MUNG. ITEM WHORE SAFE IT UP. cuz pink had just ran to safe 2 vs 1. And ey heard it and logged GM. Wow, how does this sound so familiar...? oh yes, i recieved a mute for calling him GN instead of GM. And ofcourse the mute lasted a day or two. After that i figured the best way to avoid useless waste of time was to ignore the person completely. And i do agree what you guys are trying to say, he favours the args all the way.

Guys, please.. what the *censored*? when your reading my text, what the hell are you thinking? I think i typed plain simple english.. "If the servers biggest problem at the very moment is that people are quitting and no new players are coming to replace them, one of the reason for it, is that the balance aint good and some classes are just way overpowered. You two always have the same solutions to this situation, people should "learn to play" or "learn to ek". Yet i dont see these options really bringing new people to the server, which i really think it needs right now? Look in the mirror and ask urself, if its really a good idea to make the people with mass items and ek's even stronger so the low level(READ: NEW PLAYERS!!) have even lower chances of surviving.

This is just another example of you people (excuse me for not being more specific who, you'll figure it out), think about only the well being of yourself. Its true that something new could be introduced to the ek system, but come on.. If the servers biggest problem at the very moment is that people are quitting and no new players are coming to replace them, one of the reason for it, is that the balance aint good and some classes are just way overpowered. Now the reason why im saying your suggestion aint very good, if you guys with a few more items than the new comers or even the ones that have reached 180lvl but haven't had the luck to get any sets together. Dont you agree that making those people with big amount of ek's stacked or ones that are able to get them easier than many other even more powerful is going to be a good idea in the long run? In my opinion this would be like allowing the ones with FH and mass ek's to upgrade their ancient items or something similar..

I think the best opinion to this suggestion i can give is.... No.

Wow, the humour of this topic and the whole subject is long gone.