Vampyr

Yeah it was the Private Pit thing. They used to have like 10 gps or so respawning in the Arena. Used to be able to go there with 2 or 3 mages, party up and bust out a majestic in 10 minutes.

Yeah can use any skin as long as it doesnt have invisible parts. I like one of the MetaSkins, but it has a grid type bag but I just edited it so its a different bag.

Me and Eevia did the same thing 3 days ago. Without IS just with Cloud Kill. Eevia is a Bmage as well.

Yeah my observations were when playing it with Juli was that the game was horrible with anything over say 5 v 5. So when using the event in future the teams need to be limited to a small number. It would be awesome if we could set up a weekly league, but I think a year would be to long, people would disappear etc.

Incorrect Dez. We used to hunt all the time on HBINT. Not many people were lvl 180. Plus, if DK was removed, imagine that need for manuers!

I would like to know how a couple of hours leveling in barracks compares to being a better pvp class. Even before barracks, the leveling time was not drastically more as a mage. Sure in official servers mages should be the better class, they were a lot harder to level and at high levels they shined, but here that advantage to warriors is gone. Also, they can solo more mobs? Wrong.

Even before the edit though, mage and warrior HP, at max level was extremely similar. Ive played a lot of different games and for the life of me I cannot think of any game where mages have the same HP regen and same Vitality as their warrior counterparts - except this one.

Well the HP formula was edited for Nemesis 2 to decrease the maximum HP. I'm sure they could do it. Its just a matter of finding a good balance and still maintaining the HP and regen advantage lower str characters have. Perhaps instead of having a system where each strength point contributes to HP have a system of bonus's. At 100 str theres a bonus, 130 str a bonus, 160 str a bonus, 180 str a bonus 200 str a bonus towards vit. I think taking away tower shields will be very critical to mages. I think it would be better to change warriors for the better, than to change mages for the worse if you get my drift.

Of course it proves something. Eldon is saying that Warriors have an advantage - in hunting. They can train in frosts, can sometimes solo demons etc I am saying that Mages can do those things to which cancels out of any warrior advantage in hunting and have provided an example. Some hunts are more efficient with Warriors, some with mages, neither class has a clear cut advantage or disadvantage in hunts.

Maynard, your one person, as opposed to the 120 odd that we see on the server everyday. Sure you may be an exception. You are also one of, if not the richest player on the server, hardly a good example.

I am honestly undecided on it. I am a big advocate of the "this is a MMO, you arent supposed to kill people 1 on 1" stance. However I consider myself one of the harder hitting people in the server with large hit prob, yet I have a hard time getting through 100% shield and as a majorly decked out character you would assume 1 para against a fresh lvl 180 with only DK and Tower shield I would be shouting EK+1. You would be surprised how often they get away to only laugh and recall, and look I am not looking for easy eks - I dont need them but when a fresh 180 can survive a para and 18 crits from me or any warrior who is quite decked out - something is wrong. I have seen quite a lot of mages happily equip shield and tank crits from up to 4 warriors and dance away. Not only when para'ed but when being spammed with crits (a really shit technique in fairness and should never get you an ek) a mage can go from being in considerable pain to being quite happy being hit for -10's with a sheild. I think the problem is that there is a MASSIVE difference between both classes as soon as they hit 180. A mage will always outshine the warrior and warriors only get good when they get a MR/MA set. Put it this way... brand new 180 mage with 100% sheild = 180 warrior with an MA set - in a survivability sense. In official servers mages were designed to have an advantage at higher level in PVP because it took them considerably more time and effort to level them. On a private server where max lvl is achieved in 4 hours, this takes away the warrior advantage. Warriors NEED to be given an advantage - some have suggested that the advantage is hunting but lets face it, mages can hunt whatever warriors can nowadays. I think if you take away tower shields, mages will suffer as badly as warriors do now. Mages are overpowered, you cant deny it - but I dont think this is the answer. Perhaps an overhaul to the HP formula? Mages with 50 dex have what...110 vit or thereabouts with around 630 hp. A BBH warrior with 25 mag will have about 113 vit and around 700 hp. I think that is wrong. Mages...NEVER in ANY game have ever had such a close amount of health and HP regen. Perhaps we need to look at having STR play a larger role in the amount of HP we have. The only trouble with this is, if you change the STR contribution to HP - you need to then balance how much STR so that Flame/GiS users still have a LARGE HP advantage over BBH users.

A group of mages can kill those things though Eldon. In fact me and Eveia (on AceHigh and his plate mage) took down a HC in BF. Show me 2 warriors who can take down a HC. Demons are easy to kill on mages. Sure you cant just blizz line them, you have to plan the kill out, but 80% of warriors cant solo demons either. Hell, i have trouble with some Demons and I have Demon Slayer - a weapon that is supposed to do extra damage and doesn't. A mage 9 times out of 10 will always take down a warrior 1 on 1, mages know this and scream pvp all day long at warriors. It is a widely know fact that BBH has slightly lower damage than normal. This was stated when the server first reopened - this makes blizz seem disproportionate in damage. However I much prefer the BBH here than the Nem 1 BBH which was horrible overpowered. In official servers mages were designed to have an advantage at higher level in PVP because it took them considerably more time and effort to level them. On a private server where max lvl is achieved in 4 hours, this takes away the warrior advantage.

Yeah because we all know Demons are worthwhile to hunt :rolleyes: Mages are easy to ek with straight out of the box. Warriors require items and bit more effort than spamming blizz.

For some reason in the top right hand corner we had a lot of client crashes. Over 3/4 of our guild dropped out of event due to our clients crashing and not being able to get back in time.

Another stupid rumor started by stupid people.

I live in Australia. When I play the server numbers drop to about 80 people. Probally about half were active. I played 2 sades a week at very most, and I worked every Saturday night. I am full hero. Suck it up. If full hero was easy to get, everyone would have it.

Yeah I left PL on my mage once people starting bringing in items. GooS was the only item whore around then all of a sudden everyone was bringing in Anc Giant Swords, Anc Battle Hammers, MA Sets etc and it killed the fun of being so weak and really having to fight for your survival.

Pl with every item under the sun doesnt count.

These people want easy eks from goldies leveling at ogres and werewolves.

yah.. fight is pretty, but look at weekly ek top list. Be for time set there was like ~60-80 eks per week, now is ~20-40. Since when has getting Full Hero been a task that is easily achieved through 24/7 raid? Why should it be? You just want hero handed to you. Its good the raid is back to normal, now people are EARNING their eks. I think my record was about 70 in a week with Ancient Giant Sword. Thats REALLY good seeing as my time zone allows for maybe 1/2 sades a week and during my prime raiding time 90-110 people were online (90% afk).

6th Jan I think he means :P

Sounds good Elg, same time in a few days time.

How long do you think untill the event is restarted? Im off to work in like 45 mins :P Was to bad to, Daimon hit the floor right before the server died.

Umm...what happened?

Events have never been in our favour, however this is probably the first event that isnt done at the very early morning for us, so *shrug* take what you can get. Im not complaining though, its 3pm here.