Moha

agreed i have seen it before and it was good

1 year? U cannot be serious, on decently equipped mage I could easily get 100eks a week... war is a little bit harder case, but a year? no way. ... fh is 3 months max for an active player

It has already been said.. but heres where i want ppl to give their thoughts about it. I think the abby drop was increased way too over the top. heres what farjat said : im pretty sure the cool drop category were sometihng like.. hellfire sleep xelima items ( axe blade rapier, neck) klon items( axe blade rapier, neck) marien( duno if abby drop) gbh abby ring devastator good drops might be.. ice storm , bsw , mfs, ms30 , dark exe, light blade , demon slayer , etc bllod items , efreet, ress wand anyway its way too high rate... it is very fruity it has been proved on THIS server takes 1 day to take abby down ( with whole held maps) the drop rate NEEDS to be lowered for the good of server It was increased so high i hardly see the logic in it... i know gms want to boost the hunts at apoca map+ abby but this is way too much Even Hbusa which used to Host events for nothing special ( create your own badword.tx) and gave out medusa swords , bound zwands, mpsets etc, thought this was way too fruity..

yeah i was there with mike i was elv he was ares :P what im trying is not to have an abby era we all will regret btw mike look here :P http://helbreathnemesis.com/forum/index.ph...mp;#entry300983

this isnt about elvine or ares .. its about its totally out of sync with the other drop rates and how server has been managed.. and basicly bcoz its insanly high

really? who? where? when ? wtf :P and yeah he still has to reveal what items he was refering to , i just cant stand the idea of having 60% chance of getting atleast 1 of those rares a week ! :( its too much xD

whichi still is not enough reason to let the drop rate be THAT high ! and about the odds, your making no sense honestly so i wont even answer that one (again, coz i already did and u keep saying the same so gg :P)

lets pls not get offtopic

your obviosly not a smart one guerrero good drop chance is 6/10 read my first post and yeah events with items happen ocassionaly with good things ... 2-3 times a year??... how does that doenst make sense...? i mean it has always been like that in any decent server lol...

For the final time, what drop rate is fair for top drop. How many abbys should a person have to kill to realistically get 1 rare (like xweapon) i have no clue what they were before but I consider xelima one of the ultimate weapons .. so i would sa 1/10 MAX im not saying 1/10 for every rare, but for the tops ofc i want them to be mass rare.. for example ms30 and dark exe should be kinda rare drpos too, (too bad every1 has ms 28 , again another topic) if you ask me they should drop 1/3 .. the current rate it says they are atleast 6/10 so its way too high... . im just throwing random numbers on what i think they should be cos you insited like 5 times with same question lol ... what i really want is gms to reconsider cos acording to the server set ups, management of rare items, etc. this just doesnt make any sense

If you get 6 good prizes each 10 times u play the lotto i would play it everytme and its basicly stupid example coz: im taking the numbers of a TEST of 20 abby kills , not on 1..

i consider 3/5 chance of good drop WAY TO HIGH , it could be just ms30 + dark exe or hellfire+ demonslayer or anything else. its based on luck but 3/5 is a GOOD DROP its way too high if you killed 100 tws thats beside the point im trying to discuss ABBY DROP ... and i do think hc+ tw drops got nerfed badly ..but thats another topic

i edited that post. answer this one xD lol? and theres 6/10 chance you will get good drops... which 2.5/10 will be xelimas/kitems/hellfire/devastator etc and 3.5/10 will be ms30s, dark exe, ice storm, dem slayer, etc pd. yes i put those numbers so it matches eldons 4/10.. i know 2.5/10 is 1/4 etc xD

lol? and theres 6/10 chance you will get good drops... which 2.5/10 will be xelimas/kitems/hellfire/devastator etc and 3.5/10 will be ms30s, dark exe, ice storm, dem slayer, etc you got exactly to my point

Then if you have no idea on the rates .. why would you even post to keep them? makes no sense

well i also would expect different from you.. i just cant belive abby dropped that and that it will still drop like that..... if you ask me it should have been changed asap. and if1/4 times a good drop is gona come , then we will have a new xel/kitem/hellfire every month.. it makes no sense ... and no this is no noob panic . I have been in several situations where ppl didnt see the obvious remember direction bows where they were first created ? .. tw 100% drop with the normal drop rate?... they were changed months after.. when there were 50+ xelimas, every1 had ms30, etc etc i see this happening in a few months if this doesnt get changed ( not that high numbers, but i would say there will be alot more of those items that ppl are supposed to get like once a year IF lucky) Well I don't disagree that the rates may be a bit high. But I don't think you can fairly determine that from one drop. I'm accepting that the drop last night is factoring a lot in your opinion. Also I honestly don't think it's going to go down weekly, not now (I'm trying to avoid that topic). If I ever get my GM back, I'll test 100 and get a really good indication of the rates so a decision can be made on the basis of good information (20 isn't really that many to test). However for the foreseeable future, that's not on the cards. I understand your concerns, I just feel they are a bit premature, you understand? if your saying that the drop last night is factoring alot in my opinion.. its like me saying that everytime abby goes down your the one that takes drops.. that would be a factor in your opinion?.... i have nothing to do with abby hunting, yet my oppinion might be not 100% to the point ? =x anyway you just said they may be a bit high ... it still doesnt sense .... they are way too high , its impossible not to see it i will ask you again. how you think its appropiate to give a high chance of getting the best items once each week?

well i also would expect different from you.. i just cant belive abby dropped that and that it will still drop like that..... if you ask me it should have been changed asap. and if1/4 times a good drop is gona come , then we will have a new xel/kitem/hellfire every month.. it makes no sense ... and no this is no noob panic . I have been in several situations where ppl didnt see the obvious remember direction bows where they were first created ? .. tw 100% drop with the normal drop rate?... they were changed months after.. when there were 50+ xelimas, every1 had ms30, etc etc i see this happening in a few months if this doesnt get changed ( not that high numbers, but i would say there will be alot more of those items that ppl are supposed to get like once a year IF lucky) I wouldn't count on it. The drops were tragic before and are appropriate now. I've done probably every abby kill here for the last couple of years. Tbh not many of you are in a position to question me on this. yeah even like that we still count your opinion.. now i just wana know how you think its appropiate to give a high chance of getting the best items once each week?

if they raised the drop a little you would had hunted it this week anyway they just went to over the top the topic that guerrero started has totally gone offtopic now.. pls refer to this http://helbreathnemesis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26523

i agree brotha but i dun worked hard for nothin =[ can it just be luck was on side this tiem? <3 not really pretty much everyone works hard for their items. alot of ppl Do work hard for nothing ( hunting everything else except abby in this drop rate lol) I will put this as an example .. even hbusa which is FLOODED with "rare" items, alot of ppl that hunted abby asked for better drops or higher drop rate ... even hbusa knew that wuold be too fruity... im talking about a server which used to give medusa swords as a "bad word contest" and bound zwands , mpsets, kitems etc

we killed entire abb maps, thats 30 fw's, 50 tw's, hundred hc's and many many other monsters inclueding abb, and all that we got from 40 ppl doing 22 hours work was ms30 and de. most people think ms30 is dud drop anyway, is rly better than dk? this is 2nd time in last few weeks we tried abb, last time we didnt quite get there, but killed most of everything else and also no drop. abb makes up for sucks tw hc fw iw drops. tw isnt easy, but killing 50 each week and get nothing is no so keng lar... ... having sure drops is not what hb is about i agree that abby should drop good but this is way too high right now.... theres a point for rare drops for being RARE, with this drop rate there wont be any rare item except those that abby doesnt drop rofl

1 day or 4 its the same since portal closes and can be killed 1 each week the point is the super high drop rate needs to be nerfed

actually it took 22 hours.. it would have taken alot less if we iddnt interfere i hope Gms do a change really soon ( before next week) this is way too high..

nop im pretty sure the cool drop category were sometihng like.. hellfire sleep xelima items ( axe blade rapier, neck) klon items( axe blade rapier, neck) marien( duno if abby drop) gbh abby ring devastator good drops might be.. ice storm , bsw , mfs, ms30 , dark exe, light blade , demon slayer , etc bllod items , efreet, ress wand anyway its way too high rate... it is very fruity it has been proved on THIS server takes 1 day to take abby down ( with whole held maps) the drop rate NEEDS to be lowered for the good of server It was increased so high i hardly see the logic in it... i know gms want to boost the hunts at apoca map+ abby but this is way too much

Only 5/20 will turn out like this, or 1/4 - so we got as lucky as we could on the number of good items dropping. well i dont think ms30 and dark exe are in the cool drops category most likekly on the good drops so its 12/20 ... its VERY VERY high i mean u cant put xelima neck with ms30 in same category ,.. canyou? :P

agreed on the drop thing i have no clue why abby drops were increased THAT Much... u should have just incresed them a little ..