Dark1

ZZzZzz Read your own post.. You said you had DK+ 15 sword and DK+8 wand even if you had more int than str you would only get one i remember they asked if you wanted sword or wand and people made a choice then i remember someone telling that 1 gm was giving out the part you were missing if you told him you got bugged and didnt get e.g. wand. I also played at that time so no point trying to convince me of something because at that time there wasnt a /dkset command it was GM who gave DK set + Killing a TW for you. So if you had DKWand and DKSword doesnt mean you hacked you just tricked at that time a stupid GM i cant remember name of who got cheated by many players. Anyways this is getting 2 offtopic for me.. There will always be some who want the IG pit and some who doesnt it just happens that i am one that dont. Therefor i made this post and i think that GM and players have seen what they need so i dont know if you want 2 respond Xexy but i dont see the meaning of getting this post going anymore.

no, you cannot do this.. u have to give a notice at least 1 month before you take it away.. cos some ppl have gone 200 str 59int to 130 str 112 int because of this pit. u cant just take it away like that. just say - IG PIT WILL BE THERE TILL 01.03.2008. then that may teach people not to go for the weird stat setup: in reality, a build like that shouldn't even get past lvl 50.... King!! first of all I respect you but please stop acting like a priest saying that homosexuality is wrong.. it's ok that you want to keep the server original and have people lvling up at the slime pit for years. It's a fact that hb is dying and this game isn't about grinding anymore, it's about FUN. I made my warrior in nemesis1 with like str130 dex191 int112 mag 50 and rest vit and got my dk+15 sword, dk+8 wand and the majestics needed for the stat change to get off the amp in just like a couple of weeks. IG pit is also a battlezone which is a base for most big fights because players are fighting over for the leadership of the pit and that makes the game fun. Can anyone of you remember those 15v15 fights in IB started from 2 players fighting over IG pit? What i find weird is that if you had DK+15 sword then how the hell could you get DK+8 Wand?? You cheated a GM for DKWand?? And no i actually have used the IG pit alot and with it gone i didnt actually miss it. When i started again i asked why they removed IG pit but now i dont like it anymore because i tried without it and it was actually still alot of fun for me even more fun. And i dont remember big 15 vs 15 fights going on in IG pit i remember max 2 vs 1 or 3 vs 2 fights at most. I admit we may need some reason like a pit somewhere so that we can fight over it but i belieave there is better option than IG pit.. Or even not just today we had a big fight in D2 with me as last player running 2 D4 with 2 players after me :) And after that we had a big fight in IB with 5 vs 5 i dont remember IG pit being mentioned but i remember a mage telling someone was in IB and needed to be delt with hehe. And IG pit is so easy that a recently made mage i made with 130 hp at the time i had just got amp 112 int, still failing circle 6 an 7, at lvl 70 around there could train in IG pit without a problem.. There wasnt even 1 player there 2 bother me. In the end i wont stand in the way for the majority of players if there is a majority that want IG pit which i dont think there is but i can imagine all mages dont like it because of IE neck drop and for them a useless pit. In the end it can be replaced with a pit of monsters that actually hurt you or fight back so it. Try imagine if mages had place where on a platform 50 lets say Frost or another monster spawned and they couldnt hit them i could imagine some players wanting that spot gone. Well this is my opinion and i respekt if farjat believes it is needed so far i think he have made good calls.

Well i think i got the responses i wanted. I have lvled 2 180 wars at ww pit in ml in 3 days each more or less IG pit isnt the only place to train for warriors who cant train in garden as some players state that it is.. I dont think that this should be exactly like official server but the official server tried to balance things so that warriors or mages wouldnt get 2 strong and i also think that is what farjat is trying with this server to make a balanced fun server. That must also be the reason why magic damage is lower because mages get 2 much power if it was same damage as in official server. All in all i think this is a good server and farjat have made good decisions to make it stay good and that is also why so many players are joining this server. I can only give my opinion which is i dont like IG pit and i havent seen any big fights there either. The only big fights i have seen is when someone is hunting tw/wyvern where people go there to steal drops or get EK hehe.. Anyways i think that IG's should be removed. If noone has more usefull stuff 2 add other than spam this topic should be CLOSED. Hope you consider some of the options for removing or changing the pit in IB. Peace

WTF are you talking about??? I timed para in real server several times only server i havent timed it in is HBKorea when there was one and the time has always been 16 sec.. 30 sec para is the most ridicoulous thing i have ever heard the fact is hb isnt a 1 vs 1 game but one where many can fight each other and the 30 sec para is only benefitting 1 vs 1 play and if you make it 30 sec no player will survive a paralise and paralise will be the ultimate magic that should be dropped from abaddon or something like.. Fine that you guys think that para should last longer but i totally disagree and get your facts straight before talking.

I dont get people who this IG pit is hard to train in. With pfm you can easily lvl there just kill them faster than they box you. Second IG pit doesnt forward mage/warrior party it forwards amp warrriors. As it is right now i only see warriors getting advantage from this since i have tried to train there and the exp is way lower than what i can get in garden and with the already low mage damage if more IE's get spread around you dont have to be 2 mages to kill someone anymore you have to be 4. Finally i dont really care about the exp for wars since we got a increase in gardens monsters but hearing already so many Ice swords dropped i dont want to imagine how many is going to be dropped and that is one of the reason i think that normal server wouldnt make IG pit since it is a obvious good choice to make pit with if you subtract all the rare drops :) P.S. The jajaja in the end of the guys post makes it funny jajaja

That is exactly why i dont like them :) Put in a mob with same exp instead and if you want a war mage party go ww pit.

To be honest "Mages Damage really suck!"... I have DK+ 8 wand and i cant even hit 100 with Lightning strike. I remember normal server when i played i could, with normal Wizard ms20 wand, no items hit 106 with lightning strike when i got lucky. I can understand if the magic damage has been lowered because of the exp is so high that you can easily lvl wand to + 6 atleast but what is up with this low damage with magics?? On HBUSA with a +8 DKwand i could hit critical sometimes.. I think Khelben also knows that there is a great difference between the damage on normal server and this too.

I love your events Hunter but i am missing one kind of event that i think is essentiel for a pvp game like Helbreath. "PVP EVENTS" First i think it would be great if we got some different kind of events within this category started. Second i think the prizes should be some OK, lesser rare items like Small rec. armor etc. nothing crazy like the ultra rare drops. Some ideas from you guys would be good. I know khelben is good for a good pvp event idea :D I am considering if it will be possible to make a league and make 2 man teams compete against each other and win points and move up the league. Kind of like football points :) I am really looking forward to reply and to hearing your opinions on this. Dark

I agree with you Shield is still BS item and i havent wasted 40 points to get my dex to 50 and trained for 100 skill many hours. Normal rules dont dictate if you should wear shield or not just that you dont use special armor. But this topic isnt for the specifik rules i just want suggestion to different kind of pvp events and if the GM's are going to do someting about making an event like this instead of summoning event which we could easily go to IB to do same monsters but we cant gather alot of players for and pvp event..

Yeah In USA server at its prime there was PL pvp event where they transported you from pl to Arena and then there was major PL battle :) One of the most fun time in my HB ages..

Its kinda pointless winning crusade i would rather let it go on and just ek if it was up to me and i didnt need 2 lvl. I like the exp idea or a small increase in droprate like it Originally did. The event after sade idea i dont like at all because: First town will Lag like hell. Second there is so many people that you wont get chance to get drop anyway.

I understand what you mean but i think it will be hard to check everyone if they had a ring or ms10 etc on them therefor i think like said it would be okay to use rings stuff just not spec armor + weapons. And the problem with the event i proposed is to keep track of the points if it isnt organised good enough. But if a GM with good organizing skills would take task and help organize i think it would be a great event where you could compare yourself vs other people.. I personally would rather team vs team like 2 vs 2 or max 5 vs 5 where you could rent arena and take the fight there after that you post screen on a special forum with who won the fight. So far i like the response but would like some from GM's also because this isnt possible without support from them.

w00t??? Mages are meant to be supportive char??? I guess your kind of stupid.. I agree in mages should support warriors but mages are EK machines. They should KILL KILL KILL everything they can see lol.. If anyone is stupid it is your comment about mages are meant to be supportive.. In HB nothing is meant to do anything it is what you make of it and who the person is behind the char. And yes mages hero set is useless compared to how usefull a war hero set is for them but that doesnt change the fact that prob most ppl wants hero set anyway..

My opinion is also that we need a reward for winning crusade. Not a summening event since when there is so many people as now i find it pointless. The exp sounds nice since im tired of lvling and i want to EK therefor i find myself hoping the sade wont end so i can get mass ek because winning sade will win you nothing.? Maybe a small increase in droprate like in Official server?