Solrav
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People want to create character, login, and be gifted every rare in-game with 91% sets of every possible set to then fight one another for eternity xD
Not tru. People want to play a server that:
*Doesnt takes 3 days to max a char at least along with a countless grind for majestics
*Offers rares as event prizes like nem 2 did, and not the crappy degrading ones either
*Fixes issues that players cried about, disregarding those against the changes because the players who didnt want things fixed wouldnt have left, but those who DID, saw no change and quit
These are thing things that coulda made the server more populated.
Maybe you guys should offer 1 week super increased exp for new players to join the server. The grind detours new people, period. Fix it for a week or 2 and see if you get more new comers.
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up exp plz-
armor drop is fine
Completely agree, i think it should be fast leveling to 180, maybe not instant. But it should not take 2-5 days to max a char depending what day of the week you start, and if its raid day or not. Arguing that you can purchase level up tickets from cash shop is not a valid argument. nobody wants to spend money or invest in a server that after they actually hit 180 they dont want to play anymore. Technically, either the grind detours new players or after 180 does. You shouldnt make 2 obstacles to have to hurdle over.
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Lets have a 1 on 1 later on today so you can teach me all about how to play. Unless you're busy catching it deep inside your gloryhole.
I know you're in love with me. But I'm taken. I'm more than happy to teach you how to play tho, if you can ever stay on screen once your Pfm runs outOh the skinning part sounds oh so yucky.. cant wait to skin gloryholes skin off and use it as lotion for fapping.
These all sound good srs.
1v1 means anything. Specially in a game focused around group pvp
Kinda hard to have group pvp when theres no group.
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First week we had 300+.
50% of people leave in first week because they have some memory of helbreath that is actually fake memory because so much time has passed since they played, they see all nostalgic good 'end game' in their mind, and forget how much work involved in getting lvl, ek's, and items. Also some play a week or two and have their fill of hb, even if they like the game they feel again time to move on (some from this group come back again time to time, just not very regular player)
Retaining the last 50% was possible, but for some people their circumstances may change; like new job or more school, so a few here and there leave after few weeks/months. Also some people fall out in game and these bad player-player relationships can make people leave sometimes, all these things are out of the hands of GM's, but if some key people quit, especially those seen as community leaders, they really can cause a snowball of a few more leaving, then others losing friends start to be bored and leave also.
So I think around 150-180 was the 'best scenario' outcome, and a few months into the server we had 120-140 every day which was very close to that, so good job GM's in that respect.
Remember helbreath is not a high growth game, so your best growth period is very early in the server when people are hearing about it and coming to check it out. This means very few new people are joining after the first month, maybe only 1-2 a week. In normal operation of a hb server there tend to be low growth unless a competing server shuts down and the overflow emigrates to you.
The question remains, what happened between the days when we had ~120 on maybe 4-6 weeks ago, and now. Well there is the people who were moved to balance the server having some amount of backfire, but for many people they just used the upset mood as an excuse to leave when they might not have before. In this respect I must acknowledge white[gm] original idea was maybe in hindsight the best: get involved as little as possible in server management and stick to building better source code - letting community sort out the balance. Sometimes doing nothing lets players think they do not matter tho, so in this case he was screwed if he did nothing also.
Enough people have stuck the knife in by criticizing whites decision, so I don't want to add to that because we don't know if anyone else suggestion would have been better for sure. What I will say is that FNDA made an offer to move a small group who already worked well in a team. This suggestion proved popular, but after this suggestion was made moha chose to hijack the public support that original suggestion had by first agreeing with it and then changing the central condition of the move, and perhaps unfairly used his influence with the staff to some degree to get his entire guild moved, which was much bigger and formed a central party of aresdens force. Very little public support was shown from members outside that guild but the staff did not correctly *spam*yse that aspect at the time. In this case I'm 100% sure White does not make such big decisions on his own, farjat must have been informed of these things and under his supervision he authorised this move, so white cannot be held solely responsible. All the people who want to flame white constantly in the forum should have some balls and flame farjat and moha as well.
That said, moha is a superb player and one of the most experienced players we have in this community, as well as being very knowledgeable about the game. I still feel he was the best choice for GM the staff could have made, and he has committed a lot of his own time to GM duties, more so than some of the other old players could have reasonably done.
LMFAO they made sergio a GM? not saying he cant do the job. Me and sergio have been friends since oldschool HBusa days. He is VERY informative when it comes to helbreath knowledge I am glad they actually gave somebody worth a damn a position. That being said, and a large congrats sergio, I will reply to alks post.
I didnt say Dual was a player like I described. I said that the addition of flammer, trash talkers, and disrespectful people has completely detoured anybody who was used to helbreath like it was. HBusa days, playing with Quantum and 420man in aresden and DaMage. these were the kind of people that brought respect to the player to player relations that all of us old die hard HB players remember and enjoyed. Now, with that being said, at some point in time after the invention of the helbreath private server, along came the 8-12 year old immature asshats who do nothing but troll all day. Nothing gets done about this trolling, trash talking, flamming, and THAT in itself detours any of the people who made Helbreath what it was in its glory days back to the scene.
I enjoy a good Helbreath game, Nemesis 2 was a perfect server, is stayed large for a very long time, Olympia was also another perfect server stay large as well way past launch. So what exactly did those 2 servers have that nem 3 doesnt? Who knows, but i am always open to suggestions. you cant say that its an entirely old game and it has died off so nobody plays. Runescape for example, maple story for example, minecraft as well. All just as old, but still pulling LARGE amounts of players. So the game being old is not an excuse. the only thing I can conclude that causes the problem is, too much change (besides exp rates) Too many trolls, and players with no respect. that in itself is what I think is causing the downfall of Helbreath.
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Yeah, blame on me, the one who kept playing.
Not you in general, your type of player. The trash talking, no respect for others, flamming and trolling player. Nobody wants to play with these types.
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I didnt read all you said, but your second post was already a failure and an stupid attitude. Keep those kind of shit for yourself and not to make this situation worst, because theres ppl wasting their to make it better. If you dont want to play just logout and stfu.
It's shit talking trash attitude players like you Dual why people dont want to play helbreath anymore. you people have ruined any kind of sportsmanship or honor in the game. your prob not even old enough to remember helbreath like I did. Before hero armors were even invented, and people actually had respect for others opinions.
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@Solrav:
1. True, we have been messing on balance... If we didn't, you'd still be crying or left already... So what's the choice? not mess -> you leave... mess -> 50% chance you leave... so we messed and took a risk... in your opinion a wrong move, yet in the end the move made no difference as that guild no longer plays. A second move was done recently that's also true, we're still measuring the balance there as it takes time to settle anyway. Along with that the safe-zones got back which also affects population. We'll see soon how balance is, and if needed we'll mess it again...
2. A poll was made, the community voted for change, yet the majority of votes say don't change it... so we listened, and didn't change it as voted.
3. Everyone complains about everything, there is always complainers. The change in it will not make any difference in population at all, although the community sees it as "the golden egg" which'll fix everything. I have yet to see that...
4. I don't know where you got such info, but there are only 17 permanently banned accounts, of which 3 are for using fake GM name, 4 are for item theft, 1 is for cursing staff, and 9 are for EK laming... I don't know who we did wrong, but all are legit bans for legit reasons where rules are offended lol...
5. Again, get your figures right, I just summed up the bans, none of them I recall being done for reasons you could argue. All were clearly proven violations of the rules.
6. The majority of changes the community voted for are made, that MiM didn't make it is cuz the community voted to not change it.
7. You're not trash talking anyone, but half of your info is wrong and "it's Nemesis fault" does trash talk Nemesis, and the Admins are Nemesis, so you're trash talking us.
@Omish: The way Solrav talks is totally different from the way you talked...
You may be right Joris. Its just really hard for me to come up with a solid answer for why nem 3 lost as many players as it did. When it launched it seemed promising, not saying it still isnt. But in all actuality, I really think the change from Nem 2 is what did it overall. I appreciate you actually listening to my critism rather than banning my forum acc. Like i said, i wasnt trying to bash on anybody, but it being " Nemesis fault" is really the only blame we can throw cause the players really arnt at fault for some of the issues that happened. Overall, you guys did a bangup job with nem 2, I really dont understand why nem 3 launch was HUGE and then flopped shortly after. I have nvr seen this happen on any promissing server.
I know many of players want things sugar coated and handed to them, I will not argue that. I was just wishing you guys the best at launch and it seemed to backfire for various reasons.
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Well a lot of good fights today even though aresden lost....shouldn't be so hopeless the server still has a lot of active players. Any server will have loss of population because people realize grinding takes too much of their time and real life gets neglected, but what matters is that nemesis does not wipe for at least 5 years and people always come back and play. Olympia has even running for a max of 2 years and what we've seen is already a wipe that may very well soon be happening....don't lose hope we just hope gms make the right things to populate server.
You are right, servers do lose numerous people after launch, but this isnt why again if you really want me to point what caused the bulk of the player loss here it goes.
1. Town imbalance was terrible, and staff moved the wrong choice of guilds to aresden, that really meesed up town balance. To my understanding they have been trying to fix that, and have exfered other guilds back and forth, but really now is to late.
2. Many of people were upset about various issues involving MiM at server launch saying it was too powerful a spell to be available to players at the start of a fresh server or other various thing i.e. Spell radius, ability to hit thru pfm etc etc Even after all of these complaints ingame AND on forums, nothing was done.
3. Invulnerability buff change instead of normal safe zones. Many complained about that, and it took many months for it to finally get changed, but still too little too late.
4. Many of players were banned, forum accs locked, perma muted ingame for expressing their opinion about things they thought were really messed up from the above listed. Most the staff at first just blew these complaints off as people whinning about change, but in all actuality, here we are, 200+ players gone.
5. The actions that were shown from the total of all above listed things made the other players who didnt quit already, or were banned feel like the only thing Nemesis 3 is was a money racket and by the time staff finally did start to try to fix things, everybody left.
6. Then we have the last bit of players who left. these are the players who were constantly worried about the overall stability and player base of Nemesis 3. Die hard HB players who are oldschool don't like to be called whinners or cryers when we know that the issue we are complaining about was an issue that originally started out as a suggestion but was blown completely off like nobody cared. So of course, after we get an idea about something that needs to be fixed cause its completely broken and nothing is done, the players will bitch.
Again, nobody is trash talking 1 single person, or staff, or GM or anything. It was the entire fault of Nemesis in itself. If nemesis 3 would have just wiped Nemesis 2 and launched that SAME exact server, Everybody woulda been competely happy with the way it was. Sometimes change is bad, and until coders realize this is certain cases, we will continue to see failing servers.
Edit to also add this last thing. the loss of Hunter REALLY also affected Nemesis 3. Hunter was Nemesis, he made the BEST events, was the best at player relations, and was an overall great staff member and person in general.
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EWWW NVM, i logged ingame to find only 67 players, damn this server has died.
This attitude is why it got so low in the first place. No one actually cares about your standards for a server.
There are minimal afkers at this point so if you actually played for a second you'd find a lot of fights with 67 online.
It didnt get that low because of the attitude I just posed about. I was here for launch and participated in all of the beta as well. What caused the loss of players was staffs failure to act on issues that were severe that at the time they thought people were just crying about. I loved nemesis during nem 2, but sad to say nem 3 has failed. I have nvr in my life seen a private server that is this established lose 70% of its players in less than 6 months. So obviously, there were many issues that were failed to be taken care of in enough time to make people want to stay.
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EWWW NVM, i logged ingame to find only 67 players, damn this server has died.
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Well I have been gone a long a while and am coming back to check up on things around here.
Hows elvine hanging?
Any of my old peeps still in elv?
Town balance is better or worse?
Just curious, as I may decide to come back and play some.
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well lets see, im not going to Hb arg 1 because everything is in spanish and im american, 2 the only friends i had on nemesis are still here anyways, and 3 stupid idea, stupid server, nemesis original will always be #1 in my heart, items or not.
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Ive started a protest against nemesis arg under the general topics forums, please post you opinions there and help us here at HBnemesis Int protest this abomination.
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Hi all. Ive been playing HB nemesis for some time now, have gotten to know many a ppl as well as made friends. But obviously because i dont pay for the server or for some other reason unknown HB nemesis arg was created and it absolutly killed everything and anything on the original HB Nemesis.
No more friends, no more aresden, no more elvs, no more anything. Well i think others should speak up who arnt in fear of being banned/muted/or kicked off these forums and speak thier minds about what they think about HB argen.
Dont be scared to voice your opinions about this situation. You have a voice, even if you didnt PAY for HBnemesis Int (what its being called after this abomination of arg was created), you still told others to come here and play, made friends here, hunted for hours on end, EKed a TON to earn your full heros (even if it was scorp raiding *cough* *cough* Marclorc)
These ppl should care that even tho they themselves programmed nemesis, payed for it, advertised. Word of mouth travels far more faster and greater then any amount of money or time anybody spent trying to get nemesis situated. If HB argen is the way nemesis is heading, i think the ppl who stayed here and helped make the original nemesis what it is now should be offered some kind of compensation to join into the new server. I have no idea where any of this is going or anything.
But NON ARGENS< YOUR TIME TO SPEAK IS NOW!!!!
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OK the server its not closing until /who less than 20. I dont mind paying it.
Everyone of you just go and spend 3 or 4 dollars Each to set announces to www.helbreathnemesis.com on facebook or google AdWords. They charge like 0.03 cents each person that ENTER the link...
Just check this systems and do it yourself, they are 100% easy to follow. Ask what u need on this topic...
If we want new blood, they need to know we exist. I am testing this on the arg server. Used only 20 dollars on facebook to check if it works. Who knows...But im doing something...
I will have feedback from this working good or not in 3 days...
I dont suggest outside people to go to Arg Server...It is working great now. But i am 10000% sure this host isnt even the shadow of what here is.
DONT COMPLAIN, DO SOMETHING!
Dont complain???? do something??? argen server shoulda never even been made IMO. if you could bring 300 players to a server claiming to be HB arg why not just change the name of Nemesis int to arg and fool them to thinking thats what it is. What a load of bullshit this has turned out to be for the devoted ppl who are not argentinian. Im very upset about this choice as well as disapointed in it as well. GG farjat it was a great idea to open HB arg, if your intentions were to just see fit to the needs of argens. Maybe after all this talk about us being racist towards the args, which im not, has actualkly turned u into a racists as well
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ROFl if you wipe, im definitly quiting. i wasted alot of time playing HB nemesis int, have NOOOO intension on trying a server where aregs not only strong in numbers but also have better connections now as well?!?!?! thats a big ole 2-13 for me. There needs not be a whipe, i honestly think that if there are seriously 300 players on HB arg, farjat should do a sneaky merge in about 3 months xfer everything over to 1 massive server, than HBnemesis will prevail.
Think its a little dumb to just straight up bail out on us americans that have stood strong with HBNem for so long like they dont even care about what we think, seems to only be targeted towards the Args which i see unfair. Args had a huge advantage on HBnem Int, had mass items, and power in numbers constantly.
Its ur guys server and whatever, but there isnt 1 single decent HB with diverse ethnecity like HBnem Int was b4 this dumb arg server idea.
Now we all sitting around with are dam thumbs in our *censored* like we got abadoned here, because i REFUS to play on a server thats targeted towards Argens being #1 like they ALREADY were on HBnem Int.
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Server has been for some time now, and players all pretty much have good armor sets, rings, necks etc. theres even alot of ice swords and soem xels in game too.
Lets make it more interesting and add medusa sword back into the drop list, BUT
Only let medusa drop from abby at a very low rate.
this would increase abby hunts on server, and maybe even player base. not to sure.
Just a suggestion.
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HT and Greenleaf didnt do me wrong when i got stuff from them. They are very trustworthy, even gave me phone numbers as well.
danny did agree to pay the $50, cause i saw the convo in the guildchat of HomeGrown guild when my ex roomate shared accs with Du^^ after he sold his LB and also was paid for getting danny +15 DK wand as well, and paying my ex room mate the $100 he offered him to get eh wand to +15 took a very long time, actually ALOT longer than Jim not getting the $50 from the z wand deal. Ganksta would have nvr even got the $100 if it wasnt for the fact that he sold every last item he had to danny for a total of $180, but that was to include the $100 previously owed.
Ive got no issue with dan, but i know alot of this story as well, cause ive dealt with this circle for a long while now.
Pay the man his $50 already danny, who cares if he told anybody about the deal, ffs yahoo and Hightime quit and u magically appear with a zwand, kinda obvious.
Just alot of drama that i think got way outta proportion but id do the same if i got scammed on some money i was entitled to as well.
AGAIN. Thank You jim and rob for being honest trustworthy people with the deals that i have dealt with you with.
Like I said, he's done this before.
I'm sorry, but him and his RL friends (Ganksta, Solrav) have been doing this to people and even each other for months.
I've tried to warn everyone I can about getting screwed by them.
HT is trustworthy, but he took a dumb risk trading to Danny. Imo, ban static but don't return the item.
Um and SAm, wait a second here, 1, im only RL friends with ganksta but not anymore really we kinda had a falling out but we still cool for the time being, i myself only know danny from HBnemesis.i didnt screw anybody on items either. i bought stuff from rob and jim and paid them exactly what i said i would, exactly when i said i would as well, and they will both vouch for me, so please dont add me into this scammer circle ur trying to include me in.
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In all honestly, im glad to see that the args might be leaving the server not in a racist hate kinda way but, they get way better ping then alot of us here and i think its very unfair to ppl with lesser connections.
2nd i also think that making a server based just for args could make or break a huge group of dedicated ppl that have been here for a very long time and devoted a LARGE amount of tie with thier friends as well as other etc.
Could be very bad because, there are alot of ppl here there are not args as well, but i dont think the args u already have will be willing to move to the new server just for better ping with the items and advantage they have here on the original server.
2 years of time devoted to building a guiild, hunting for mass items, getting FH on chars, doesnt seem like something id give up just for better ping. The originality of Helbreath was to have a server with all diff kinds of ppl having all diff kinds of ping so theres going to be advantages and disadvantages.
I've seen lots of servers break up because of decisions like this and fail horribly.
Now im sure alot of you are going "YAY NO MORE ARGS"
but the args here are what make this server fun and more competitive.
Bad idea IMO just for ping and a few more players, but with more players comes more problems, more issues, more laming, more stealing, more hacking etc.
Plus the player base you have here you have gotten to know and realize the kind of ppl they are. I think having friends > more players IMO, as it is very priceless.
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He's going to be playing WoW fyi.
Actually Ell, FYI, me and the wife have started with the GED program yesterday night at Forsyth Tech Community college, bout to lose internet here at the house here real soon so im not sure what im gunna be doing with my free time. Already gotten a disconnect notice due to lack of payment :( Wish i could live with my mommy and not have to work and get paid an allowance at 24 years of age, have internet for free, and have so much free time to play HB all day long.
Called me out so you got the same. lol.
still love ya man, hit me up sometime.
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Anyways, im out guys. Dont ask for items cause elv was raiding aresden and i gave all my items to the elvines including my DK+ stuff and hero stuffs.
This game has made me devote way to much time to it, and i need to be focusing more on my 2 kids at home and my wife. Figured the only way id actually quit is if i got rid of everything and anything i worked hard for even tho it wasnt much.
Elvine enjoy my items, u guys were in the right place at right time for free, dm3 necks, rogm's emmy rings, an entire mr set W, hp items W, mp stuffs, zems etc.
Enjoy.
Goodbye all.
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Ive nvr had any problem with mages amping warrs, cause 1, if its an intense battle either they gunna have to stop what they doing and stand still for amp or 2 the mage amping that warr better have some pr0 aim to hit while moving which, ive seen, not alot of mages have good aim here, most are clickers (clicking on the person)
Ive found that clicking ahead of the person path seems to be the best way about this but thats just my preference, its like shooting a gun, from a distance a moving target cannot just be shoot straaight at, u have to aim the shot a little ahead of it to actually hit. ^_^
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wow u guys misunderstand the whole pit idea, first things first, ud have to lure out the other mobs, stalkers, wws that spawn there to begin with but than not only that if the monster u lured gets killed out by river it respawns in the pit it came from, some prob 1/4 of the time would be spent luring out of the pit while hunting, its not like it would be more than 1 ettin in that pit. not that big of a deal, and even with that ww,stalk,ett,mg pit on HBusa there still isnt ANY over powered BH drops yet. nothing no hp91 anc bh or no bullcrap like that.
Would would a few more rares added to the server hurt, its already goten to the point where wrrs all have MR/ma and ip or ie necks of some sort, its actually getting a little hard for mages unless its a 1vs1 battle or odds are even, what would a couple more cancel, or esw, or maybe even a z wand hurt the server? None at all. Even a couple stated BHs better than sharp rep 3 or something like that would be ok too. Im a mage and have no problem with a few satted BH drops floating around.
Server has been up this long, and ppl are buying items cause they dont get drops, shit we won held this week and i was in IGs for 3 hrs straight and didnt get 1 N/S armor drop at all.
Drop rate isnt bad here at all but, maybe an event should be thrown to give out a random SB or DE and cancel manual or ms10 z wand.
Items make ppl play no matter how hard i dont want to admit this but its true.
Iya the population isnt bad, u see 130+ peeps on during daytime here in the USA, but almost 2/3 of that pop are afk, and the only time u ever see 170+ ppl on is during raid days and during held/sades.
Starting to be like another server i USED to play :blush:
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I know this is a HUGE problem with dragonia being on the same server as BI, PPL xfer item between thier ares and elv chars in BI and can see blue chat if ppl are dragon hutning and can raid it. Now, the raiding isnt the part that needs to be fixed, thats part of the game lol. What needs to be fixed it the chat server its on.
Im sure alot of ppl will agree with me on this one, put it on same server as DGLV 4 or something, anything but BI, shit, u could even put it on same server as icebound if you wanted, just as long as it cant be sen in BI is all im suggesting be changed.
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Hes not assuming that is what you are going to do, but 1 rotten apple spoils the bunch. If they want new players and to keep players, bringing your 1min raid during weekdays, is a NO GO. This is a bad suggestion to detour new players and a good suggestion to help you or any other goldie killing player get hero items, which is selfish.